CARPE NOCTEM INTERVIEW

by Carnell

Look Out He's Got a Knife!

The first time I saw David J. Schow speak was at Fangoria Weekend of Horrors. He was a guest there scheduled to give out one of their Chainsaw Awards. As fate would have it, Brandon Lee won the Best Actor award for his role in THE CROW. Being a friend of Brandon's, David accepted the award for the late actor and, in an emotionally charged speech, expressed his (and our) dismay at the thought of Miramax/Dimension's plans to go ahead with a sequel to the film. During his short speech, the author stated his thoughts so eloquently that the entire room was left in hushed silence as he stalked off the stage. As first impressions go, this was one of the best. David J. Schow is a gifted, outspoken, viciously original writer who expresses himself first and considers the political ramifications of his statements later. He neither caters to public opinion nor does he bend to the sheep-like mentality displayed by other writers in the horror field.

My kinda guy...

 

What is your educational background and what drew you to writing as a profession?

I'm a university drop-out. Three semesters and gone. I always wanted to write, so I wrote; the trick was getting people to pay money for what was getting written anyway. The irony of my brief fling with higher education is that, today, I get paid to lecture at universities about writing -- I get paid more for one night than my original scholarship/grant had been to go to school for an entire semester, in the first place. Plus lodging and meals.

 

Do you recommend that anyone who has the desire to write should just get on with it and forego the getting of, say, a degree in English or literature?

An English degree might help you counter certain deficiencies of grammar which haunt me to this day. Otherwise, I'd forego writing classes and workshops, in college or anywhere else. By the time people with whom I'd gone to college acquired their degrees, I had sold both fiction and nonfiction professionally. My "diploma" was a check and an acceptance letter that I treasure still; how do you feel about your diplomas? A literature degree might help you read, but it certainly won't help you write, and shouldn't you be reading without professional help? When I see how many writers have to make ends meet by teaching writing, it depresses me. What do you do with a workshop story? Curry the approval of an instructor whom you essentially pay to critique at your material, then, if you're lucky and you dare, submit it to an editor. I say cut directly to the editor, since the editor is the person with the power to buy your story or book, and the rest is just coddling, salve for your ego that costs you money. Don't worry about joining clubs, or ferreting out "tricks" or shortcuts. Don't even listen to me. Just write.

 

Do you believe that Horror. as a genre, is dead?

Dead? No. How could it be? Horror has been with us since before the written word, before literature, and before schools of criticism that try to declare something as broad and fundamental as horror dead. Horror can easily weather a market slump because it's primal, it transcends genre. It teaches us our shape.

If you say, "Gee, sci-fi's in a slump," people know immediately what you mean. If you say speculative fiction is in decline, they'll look at you like you're nuts. As opposed to what other kind of fiction? The horror version of sci-fi is HOO-ROR -- dark, fantastical literature rendered down into a consumer category. By its stench you shall know it: good vs. evil parables that function as advertisements for one outmoded religion or another. Xerographic bullshit in which families with possessed children move into new digs in sinister New England towns, above old Indian burial grounds, and awaken ancient naughtiness. Virtually any novel that begins with a prologue set in another century. Or copycat writing by people whose entire prep is slasher movies and the Stephen King Library. Say it loud: HOO-ROR. Then shoot it in the head. Aim for the wallet.

 

You've said that "every writer of any worth writes for an imaginary group of about ten readers in his or her head - that coterie who will understand every layer of story at whatever depth you care to veneer the writing." My question is, do you think that most writers feel this way? Are these ten people the type that you would ever invite to your house for dinner?

As for other writers, you'd have to ask them. But make no mistake -- writing is still primarily an act of ego, upon which you gild other considerations as you go. You need a strong ego to armor yourself against constant rejection of your work and of you as a writer (not to mention you as a human being) so among those ten imaginary people in your head are folks you invent for the purposes of testing your work. Attacking it, to see if it holds water in ways that matter to you. But would you want to sit at a table with ten people picking apart every nuance of your work? No again. That's why they're strictly imaginary. Besides, if they were real, I'd never give them my street address, and even if I did, it's really hard to find my house.

 

Are you ever completely pleased with a story once you decide to let it go so it can be published?

About 50%. Copyedit and proofs can craze you, because the urge to tinker is always there and you've got to learn to lock the lid down and get on with the next job. I do believe that once a story is published, you shouldn't mess with it except to amend an outright factual error, or scotch something that will irritate you for the rest of time because it rings sourly. Other than obvious corrections, you've just got to learn to leave it alone. When I was on the brink of my first story collection, I rewrote some of the stories front-to-back. That's not a good idea. Stories are of their time. Should I go back to a story ten years from now and cycle in replacement slang? Make the characters hew to some future concept of political correctness? Or incorrectness? If they're infinitely malleable, why bother committing to any single version at all? That's where your story morphs into a video game, and it's a potential pitfall of word processing -- all changes are equally easy. That, to me, confuses typesetting with writing. If you want to make a change in fiction, it should be a change you are willing to work to achieve. And if you know that, then the ease of word processing becomes an advantage and not a hazard.

Now I'll contradict myself, proving that there is no one answer for anything. Necronomicon Press will publish (in April 1997) a chapbook version of a short story that has already appeared in Dark Terrors 2. The chapbook version is slightly expanded. After I sold it to Dark Terrors, I "wrote on it" some more. I wanted a US version of a new story that I could hand to people who ask what I've been doing lately -- one that didn't force them to cough up the scratch for an entire imported anthology. It's the same story, but different. The chapbook version has extra stuff.

 

How were you brought on board the first CROW film?

I was called by Ed Pressman in late 1991 to do a page-one rewrite (ie., a new draft from scratch) when a first draft and revisions by John Shirley failed to help Pressman secure a studio or production funds.

I know that over the course of filming THE CROW, you became friends with Brandon Lee, Can you take us through your version of the accident and the subsequent emotional upheaval that occurred as a result of it?

It's time to stop carping on the accident, which, as I answer this question, was four years ago. People still sidle up to you in that faux-intimate way and purr, "So what really happened ... ?"

What really happened was that there was a hideous accident on-set. I was there and saw it happen, and there's not a day that passes in which it doesn't cross my mind.

The most emotional moment I can recall came not when Brandon died, not even at the memorial service later in California, but on the flight back from North Carolina after production was suspended. Tabloid reporters were sneaking onto the backlot and nailing crew members in restaurants. There were a couple of fistfights. It was a siege atmosphere. Some of us stayed in town a few days longer than others because immediately after the accident it was like the evacuation of Saigon. But we finally left. I was flying back with Alex McDowell, the production designer, and Ken Arlidge, one of the cameramen; both friends. We're all sunk into our seats, just wishing the plane would never touch down, that it would keep going until it got someplace where there were no people, no "entertainment magazines," no bullshit on the news. And before the in-flight movie, trailers come on, and sure enough, one of the previews is for DRAGON: THE BRUCE LEE STORY. And the whole first class cabin comes alive with: "Isn't that the guy who just got killed? Wasn't he murdered? Wasn't he cursed?" I hope, in your life, you never feel the way we all felt at that moment. What we saw around us was not curiosity or sympathy, but a rat-eyed lust for gossip, tongue-clucking disapproval and the kind of ambient smugness that says people who have the arrogance to make movies richly deserve whatever disaster befalls them.

I pretty much gave up funerals and wakes after Brandon's service, for reasons having mostly to do with the ghouls who show up to be seen grieving, the 'coffin riders.' There are better ways to honor the dead. I've said this before: Movies are like war in that war can be hell. You're frequently in some far-flung location where you have to bring in all your own supplies and keep from going nuts. Sometimes there is glory, sometimes there are casualties. But unless you've been there and done it, you have no idea what it is like no matter how many dumb movie magazines you read.

 

I know a lot of changes had to occur in the film after Brandon's death, What were some of them and do you agree with the direction the film ultimately went in?

It was the same direction it had been going when principal photography started, only now it gained the resonance of Brandon's death. Shitcanning the entire film would have been more cost-effective to the money guys, and Alex Proyas did not want to continue until a couple of the actors encouraged the idea that the only thing more depressing than burying Brandon would be to bury Brandon and the movie, which had a chance of standing as legacy. Whether you like the movie or not is irrelevant; put yourself in our position. Once the decision was made to complete the film, three quarters of our original crew put themselves on hold or worked for next to nothing just to be there. Going back gained an almost spiritual urgency. And the final shot of the production was the giant, flaming Crow outline, which seemed like a nice closure until we realized we had to reshoot the disinterment scene from point of view inside the grave. That chilled our freakin' self-satisfied closure, but good.

I knew a lot of people would go to see the film out of morbid nosiness. But that's an opening weekend sort of thing; it burns sometimes hot, always fast. I had no idea people would obsessively come back and watch it over and over. There are, today, at least 20 CROW websites. Think of some of the other films that came out in 1994 -- are people still talking about SCHINDLER'S LIST, or TRUE LIES, or FORREST GUMP? Good or bad, they were forgotten as soon as they won some trophies and got shoved aside to make room for the next blockbuster, and ... and here people are still talking about THE CROW.

I miss little things -- looks, lines, or explanations for why some strange-seeming things were there. In the first cut we had, some things were better. I'll give you an example of a microscopic one: In the pawnshop scene when Eric says, "I'm looking for something in an engagement ring," we originally had the camera on Brandon when he said, "Gold." He had the perfect expression; it was a good moment. But in the interests of tightening, we now see a reaction shot of Gideon when Eric says "gold," and the moment is missed, and the scene gains nothing apart from being speedier by a quarter second.

The Reznor song is rhythmed to the action better in the first cut. The bad guys aremore individualized. You get to see Funboy totally out of his mind on drugs, basing like a demon, then licking the needle he uses to shoot up Darla. The heart-to-heart scene in Albrecht's apartment had room to breathe. The infamous liquor store robbery by 12 year olds was intact. While we were shooting that scene, the news let us know that a couple of 13 years olds had tried to boost, at gunpoint, a convenience market somewhere in New England. The rough cut, incidentally, was temp-tracked to This Mortal Coil and Gabriel's score to THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, in case you hadn't guessed.

One of the most obviously reworked scenes surprisingly works very well - the scene where Sarah speaks to the empty apartment, which was originally dialogue between her and Eric as Eric sits at the fireplace burning all the remnants of his past life. We just removed Eric's lines and played it straight for the most part. It's a bit more obscure, but it works a hundred times better.

 

What is your opinion of the franchisement that has occurred with THE CROW?

Ed Pressman took on THE CROW as a franchise from the beginning; he said so in a dozen interviews. Brandon was signed to star in three CROW movies. So all this mawkish card-shuffling about what the "mythology" really means is bullshit. Now it's more about selling collector's cards, and Slurpee cups, and tchotchkes nobody with a brain needs. None of this junk would move without the emotional connection to Brandon. That's commerce. This is, after all, America. So far, I've turned down writing two CROW sequels and a TV show. That's my choice. The only way I would ever have been willing to tackle a sequel would be if Alex had returned to direct one; then, sure, I'd throw in with him. But I don't have to; he doesn't have to. I've since written two other features for Alex.

 

They are?

Final drafts on DIAL M FOR MONSTER (by Proyas and Brendan Young), a really grotesque comedy featuring aliens and Mexican wrestlers, and BOOK OF DREAMS (by Proyas), a surreal pastiche of dream worlds presented as a declassified documentary. Dreams is partially shot already.

 

What in your opinion happened between your script and the finished product of LEATHERFACE?

We lost a key producer in the very early stages of the project. Jeff Burr, the director, had to swing in on a vine at the eleventh hour with no prep and no down time from his previous feature. And Jeff was not part of the rewrite process -- so, with the replacement producer, you have three plans all pulling against each other.

 

Were you happy with the way the film came out?

In that I got a full production gig on the first feature screenplay I ever wrote, I'm happy that it came out at all. Does the movie represent the script? Not really. But I'm past indicting anybody; basically no one is completely happy with the final version as released. The workprint has enjoyed some popularity as a bootleg item, but it's no closer to the script than the release version. Think of it as a foothold; you try to do better with each job, until the next script and the movie made from it ultimately converge. Insofar as that arc, I am getting a little closer to satisfaction on each new project. On the other hand, I heard that the draft I wrote of FREDDY VS. JASON for New Line -- as the fifth writer in a chain of eight or nine so far -- has been redrafted into a straight comedy. In some cases, you just accept the credit and move on.

 

Given that Hollywood is such a difficult environment to work in and one that is prone to the raping of any writer's vision, what lures you to continue work there?

There's no place on Earth you can get paid better just for making shit up. I've heard Hollywood is a sewer, a destroyer of talent, all my life and it just isn't true. You have to understand ground rules, guilds, what titles mean and how expert liars can function without malice. You have to learn how not to take certain spiky things personally, and be reasonably user-friendly to people who consider themselves "more normal" than you ... but what wage jobs exist in the world where you don't feel you've blown opportunities, could have done better, or have to put up with assholes now and then? The dynamics of the deal are like armor you wear into battle. If you return from the field alive, you win. It's the Filmaking-is-Hell scenario again. Some writers are conscientious objectors. Some are just grunts. Some are like Patton.

The people who still want to believe in what Michael Crichton calls "the 'They Killed My Baby' tradition of writerly whining" in regard to the movie industry should read the book Monster: Living Off the Big Screen, by John Gregory Dunne, which is the real deal about the ups and downs of spending eight years to make a movie -- not the envious, fantasy jerkoff that is the mainstay of movie crapzines, which are written by outsiders, for outsiders. The bottom line of working in Hollywood is that the pleasure is equal to the pain, and both can be considerable, but neither is guaranteed. Movies are the artistic medium of this century that reaches the greatest audience, so there's your motivation. And believe it or don't, but it is possible to use the system as much as the system uses you, and if you understand that, then the whole process can be fantastic.

 

Out of curiosity, what do you consider to be examples of great film making? What are your Top Ten films?

I don't have a list, but a pretty good barometer of a "top" film is any film that profoundly changes the way films are done after it. Take Alien as a perfect example -- it changed everything. I knew everything there was to know about that film before it came out. I'd read every draft of the script and interviewed a lot of the principal cast and crew in 1978. And the first time I saw it complete and assembled, it still blew me away... and pretenders are still trying to imitate it nearly 20 years later. Its progenitor was really CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, a movie I could watch a couple of times a year for the rest of my life, and probably will. Some recent odds and ends:

My favorite horror movie of 1994 was THE ROAD TO WELVILLE; I've seen it maybe 20 times. Of 1996, FARGO, which I saw on Academy Award night (in 1996), which is the best night of the year to go to the movies -- it's the only way you can avoid all the Oscar bullshit.

SEVEN - or SE7EN - impressed me. In these days of politically-correct sweetness and light, we need more dark movies. I just wish they'd kept the original ending but the reason the ending got changed was thanks to focus group screening polls, which have outlived their usefulness by a couple of decades at least. You spend a year or two on a film and some nitwit who got a free pass has the power to change your ending? Fuck that.

Cronenberg's CRASH is a great example of a movie that's important even if it is flawed. It's important because it is a film chock-full of automobile accidents and sex - neither of which are designed to appeal to the prurient interests of a 17-year-old. And it is important because it stands as an artistic work in spite of the Family Values Nazis and their insectile ratings systems.

 

Is it possible for one of your stories or books to ever get a fair treatment on film?

If it worked for Michael Crichton and J.G. Ballard, it can happen for me, sure. Has it? It hasn't really had a chance yet. I don't write my fiction while selling the movie rights in my head; nor do I particularly write film work for any other medium. Keep in mind that all of my produced film work has been as a hired gun for material that did not originate with me. Chainsaw III was a sequel. THE CROW was based on a comic book. The Showtime OUTER LIMITS I wrote was an original, but it was severely compromised before the first draft was even finished, then butchered by a hack, so by the time it actually got near a camera, it was a crippled, hopeless thing. I'm working on two features right now for which all the basic ingredients were supplied. My job is to mix the ingredients palatably. To turn one-liners into characters, and log lines into a coherent story. I hope. As for specs, who cares? As Larry Cohen said, "Every asshole in Hollywood has got a spec script in his back pocket." Really titanic assholes have one in each back pocket. Nothing counts unless you get paid for it. As ground rules go, it's a pretty simple proposition, really.

 

Would you ever want to see The Shaft or The Kill Riff be made into a motion picture? Would you want to write the script for them?

The Shaft might be fun to distill. I'm afraid The Kill Riff would date at lightspeed no matter what the prevailing musical fashion is. By the time a movie could be written, shot and released, it'd look as outmoded as Phantom of the Paradise does now.

 

Who would your choice of directors be?

Val Lewton, but unfortunately, he's dead. I'm kidding. Not about the dead part. Never mind...

 

Do you think that anthologies are a good way for readers to be introduced to new writers?

Not a good way, but absolutely the best way. That's why I made sure there were a couple of "first sales" in Silver Scream. Mark Alan Arnold was an editor, but nobody knew him as a writer until "Pilgrims to the Cathedral of Sleaze," which title I forced him to shorten. Tobe Hooper got a kick out of getting book credit. Mick Garris' first published short story sale was to Silver Scream - "A Life in the Cinema," the story he fondly calls "the cocksucking zombie baby story." Anyone who thinks Mick is a creampuff, based on some of his film work, should read his short fiction, which is hard to find, but which will knock your dick in the dirt.

 

Do you ever get tired of being referred to as the "Father of Splatterpunk?"

Nope. It's out of my hands. I think the curse of life is that you don't get to choose the thing that makes you immortal -- if anything at all. Your worst novel becomes a popular classic. Your most mediocre song is a hit. Nobody uses your chewiest quotes, and the dumbest thing you ever said gets used as a bloc excerpt. The worst photo of you ever taken is the most reprinted. I just shudder to think what the Mother of Splatterpunk might be like. Think of the children!

 

In the realm of horror fiction, who do you think is out there plying their craft and doing it well? Who do you read?

Sometimes I get so fed up I say, "I don't read horror anymore," which isn't strictly true, and is bad, besides, to dismiss it that way is to automatically corral it into t he kind of cut-and-dried "genre" I hate. It's still the best when it comes at you unheralded, without the "horror" label plastered all over it, because it has a better chance to surprise you. There's a plot twist a third of the way through John Farris' Sacrifice that knocked me flat and left me gasping; there's another key revelation of that sort in Wildwood. I like Farris. Sometimes he seems to be the only adult out there writing scary stories for the mainstream. I just discovered William Browning Spencer. I enjoy Thomas Ligotti and Michael Blumlein. I devoured the new, "lost" Shirley Jackson collection, and am prodigiously reading every volume of North Atlantic's ten-volume Theodore Sturgeon omnibus as the books come out. I have a decided taste for the erotically-charged stuff produced by the Reform School Riot Grrls of horror -- where's my list? -- Poppy Brite, Christa Faust, Kathe Koja, Lucy Taylor, Caitlin Kiernan, Nancy Kilpatrick in her "Amarantha Knight" incarnation (the fact that Christa is my wife has absolutely no bearing on my appreciation of her fiction). If Richard Christian Matheson ever finishes his second collection, I'll read it - probably in an afternoon. Joe Lansdale is an automatic must-read, although I could live quite happily in the absence of any more Hap and Leonard novels, which is what he's been concentrating on recently. Doug Winter needs to finish his damned debut novel so I can read it. Tim Lucas, who wrote Throat Sprockets, has just finished his second novel, titled The Only Criminal. I'm there. I wish Rod Whitaker -- Trevanian -- would write another novel; it's been nearly 14 years. I don't know if he died or just switched pseudonyms again.

It's not just the writers you read now, but the writers you consistently return to. Robert Bloch taught an important lesson when he told me that late in life he'd decided not to keep books in his house unless he had read them twice. We must not forget Fritz Leiber, or for that matter, Joseph Payne Brennan, or Gerald Kersh. Right now, in England, Stephen Jones is assembling Karl Edward Wagner's final collection under the title Exorcism & Ecstasies. Karl's first collection, In a Lonely Place, was one of those books that just picked me up and shook me.

And that's just in so-called "horror." Good thing you didn't ask me about anything else scary ...

 

What made you decide to embark on such a daunting task as writing your Outer Limits Companion?

I had no choice. It was either go all the way ... or don't go.

 

How long did that book take to pull together?

It was over ten years from first interview to publication of the first edition, which was in 1986. To get to the book version, the publishing world had to be lubed up with an eight-part series in Twilight Zone Magazine. Then I redid a "bullet version" of the TZ piece for people who could no longer find the book. And I am just now putting the finishing touches on a heavily-revised second edition, for GNP/ Crescendo. This is not the old book with a surplus catch-up chapter tacked on. Every page has added text and corrections. New photos. New layout. Larger format. Higher price. I just hope I can get it out the door this year.

 

What prompted you to agree to write your column for Fango and why did you to cease doing it?

I started out writing columns, and I like editorial writing. Nonfiction writing. "Raving & Drooling" -- the title -- was cooked up about 12 years ago when a friend and I decided to write, for Fangoria, a pseudonymous column that just arbitrarily ripped the shit out of all comers, indiscriminately. It was satirically intended. It was supposed to be like punk writing. "Raving & Drooling" was also intended as a riddle -- the first person to place the reference correctly would get a free subscription to Fangoria. That idea died the death it basically deserved.

Ever since I did the two-part Chainsaw III "set diary" for Fangoria, Tony Timpone periodically asked if I'd do a column. Virtually every horror magazine in business in 1990 asked me for a regular column at one time or another. I quickly calculated that I could spend all my writing time cranking out columns and make very abysmal money indeed. I took Tony up on the standing offer in 1992 based on two things: My need to write nonfiction, and Fangoria's readership -- 250,000, which blew any and all similar competition into the mud. I wrote 40 columns totaling about 80,000 words of text. That's a novel.

I stopped because you could never get far enough ahead on deadlines, and my short story output was eroding. Stories go out into the world and get reprinted, resold, anthologized and collected if you're lucky; people keep reading them. Readers read columns once and that's it. I've said that I wrote the Fango column as a two-page spread so people could read it at the newsstand if they resented the cover price of the magazine. Except for the fact that Fangoria is prohibited from printing the f-word, I was never censored or restricted in any way. Tony gave me complete freedom to ramble on about whatever I wanted. Early on, he did change two column titles, both for the better. I think he could sense when I wasn't inspired, there; I always have trouble with titles.

Presently there's interest in collecting the columns in book form. Tony has graciously told me the door's open at Fangoria any time I want to continue. I put the column down, the deadlines evaporated, and I quickly finished seven or eight new stories, two of them novelettes, all of which should be out by the time this interview is read by paying customers.

 

What is the present situation with the anthology you're editing, Look Out He's Got a Knife.

It's not an anthology, but a collection of my own stories, and it bit the dust basically when a small press did, and got subsumed into a larger new collection with the provisional title Crypt Orchids - another term I got from Bob Bloch, by the way. If the fates are with me, it should be out sometime in 1997.

Can you tell me a little about how you and Christa Faust met. fell in love and got married?

We met in New York City, in Linda Marotta's apartment, and spent lots of time walking around the city in the dead of night. The "love" part was totally out of our control; it overwhelmed us.

Christa hauled stakes for Los Angeles to live with me and promptly got physically attacked by an ex of mine; Christa made like Sigourney Weaver in Aliens when she blows the parasite out of theairlock... then she and I had a very nice dinner with friends. About a year later, we got officially married three times, the first time in a helicopter at the stroke of midnight. For us. The second time was for family, and the third, for friends on Hallowe'en.

 

What can we expect to see from David J. Schow in the near future?

Ever since writing movies became my "day job," I've learned not to curse in-work projects by talking much about them. The most perfect assembly can go horribly wrong at the last minute, and in the most annoying way. Anybody who hasn't by now read a recent short story of mine hasn't been reading anthologies. Novel #3 is still on hold. The totally-revamped Outer Limits Companion will be out, I hope, this year.

If you're after new stories, check out Dark Terrors 2 (ed. Stephen Jones), Love in Vein 2 (ed. Poppy Brite), Lethal Kisses (ed. Ellen Datlow), Rage Magazine #7 (the Valentine's Day 1997 issue), and the new issue of Midnight Graffiti.

Let me know what you think of Doug Winter's gigantic new concept anthology, which will be called Revelations in America (May 1997), but Millennium everywhere else.

Things I just kicked out the door: A 2000-word piece on Karl for the aforementioned Exorcism & Ecstasies, and an Introduction for Volume 3 of the Prima Books series of Outer Limits novelizations edited by Debbie Notkin. One day, suddenly, you check and realize you've got a whole file drawer full of odds-and-ends writing like these. It's all to drive bibliographers crazy.

Director Alex Proyas with Brandon Lee in the first (unused) test makeup for THE CROW. (Photo by DJS; Copyright ©David J. Schow, 1993. All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission.)

 

DJS and the dazzling Christa Faust costumed as "executive extras," on location in the ballroom of the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado, for an appearance in the Mick Garris-directed version of THE SHINING. (Photo by Frank Darabont.)

followup

The Necronomicon Press edition of "(Melodrama)" was never produced, despite three very cool pen-and-ink illustrations created specially for the project by Woody Welch. The "extra stuff" version of the story appeared in CRYPT ORCHIDS.

 

If You Look Really Close Dept.: In the film DARK CITY, director Alex Proyas featured a theatre marquee which read: Coming Soon: BOOK OF DREAMS, a reference to the project mentioned in the interview.

 

As of the end of 1999, the FREDDY VS. JASON project still had not been produced.

 

Since this interview, "Trevanian" and John Farris both issued new novels in 1999 -- INCIDENT AT TWENTY-MILE and SOLAR ECLIPSE, respectively -- plus I finally got to read Doug Winter's debut novel, titled RUN and scheduled for 2000. THE OUTER LIMITS COMPANION, needless to say, did not "get out the door" until Exmas of 1998 (despite its legal-page pub date of August).

 

The magazine edition of this interview features about 10 samples of my cemetery photography, the explanatory paragraph for which read as follows:

 

"This is a very small cull from over ten years' worth of cemetery photography done all over the United States. Swan Point Cemetery in Providence, RI is in fact where H.P. Lovecraft is buried, though Lovecraft's grave marker (paid for by fans years after his death) is not very interesting visually. Willow Brook Glen is a genuinely abandoned graveyard, fallen to ruin in upstate New York. I got to Washington Hollow just as they had cleared away half the hillside to put in a gas station; since most of the remains were, by this late date, part of the mulch of the hill, nothing could be transplanted -- so they just excavated the dirt and stacked up the headstones. The marker concerning "Sheriff Lightfoot" sits in front of Joe Lansdale's house, a former gambling den on the outskirts of Nacogdoches, TX. Poppy Z. Brite deserves a mention for guiding me through St. Louis #1 in New Orleans, and keeping me from stepping on all the used hypodermics."

 

Joe says the Lightfoot marker recently got destroyed by a car backing over it, or something.

 

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